David Gornoski sits down with Craig Stewart and the two continue their study on Rene Girard’s Battling to the End. In this episode they explore chapter 5 of Girard’s last book. Can we make sense of the FBI Trump raid with Girard’s anthropology? Is humanity waking up to the revelation of the Gospel? Are all forms of rivalry bad? Is a post-Christian society becoming more universal as opposed to being nationalistic? Is there a way of avoiding a model-obstacle relationship in a mimetic environment? Is there a connection between the modern hatred of human bodies and the fleshly desire within materialism?