Jerry Bowyer: How Jesus Would Approach Social Justice, Policing

Jerry Bowyer, economist and editor of Townhall Finance, joins David Gornoski to talk about the pandemic, conservatism, and the social justice movement. On the pandemic lockdowns, Bowyer observes that we far too often think politically on scientific issues and that top-down solution is not always the answer. This is a problem that exists in conservatism, Bowyer argues while urging conservatives not to play the liberal’s game of big government. Is it appropriate to tear down statues of violent figures? How would Jesus deal with today’s social justice movement? Listen to the full episode to know how we can successfully bring true justice and fairness by imitating Jesus.

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Mark Sunwall on Jacques Ellul and Propaganda

David Gornoski reflects on the joyous news of Craig Cesal coming home and the long road that lies ahead for setting the captives free. Also, anthropologist and economist Mark Sunwall calls in to discuss the work of French philosopher Jacques Ellul. Sunwall brings attention to Ellul’s work on propaganda and how an understanding of Ellul’s thinking helps us in comprehending and dealing with our information-heavy world. Listen to the full episode for all this and more.

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Chicago Pastor Corey Brooks on Steps to Build Trust During Division

David Gornoski continues in showing us how we can unplug ourselves from the matrix of violence. Also, Pastor Corey Brooks of the New Beginnings Church calls in to discuss his six steps for bridging the great divide of America right now. On getting rid of non-violent crime laws and qualified immunity, Pastor Brooks says, “As conservatives, we need to reevaluate ourselves in society and be courageous.” Pastor Brooks stresses on bringing everyone to the table of dialogue for healing that transcends barriers. Listen to the full episode to know how we can make Christ-imitation the foundation of our modern-day discourses.

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David Gornoski on the End of Capitalism, James Kourtides on 21st Century Questions

“It’s cool to hate capitalism because most of us are raised in government schools,” says David Gornoski. How can we have a truly free market when the referee is always paid off to rig the game? We need to get the notion out of our heads that saving money to defer consumption is somehow ‘greed.’ Do we realize that much of what constitutes the criticism of capitalism are justifications for throwing non-violent people into prison? Also, James Kourtides calls in to discuss his YouTube video 21st Century Questions and his thoughts on Rene Girard and Gilles Deleuze. How can we move towards actual solutions without conforming to the political scapegoat mechanism and even our own personal pet-peeve scapegoating? Listen to the full episode to find out.

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How the Gospel Technology Works

Host David Gornoski explains how we can be freed from the shackles of collectivism by looking to the Biblical story of the woman caught in adultery. He who is without sin may cast the first stone, Jesus told the persecuting mob. The first step is the recognition of our part in societal injustices. Abandoning the notion of correcting others through violence allows for what David calls ‘the gospel technology’ to flourish. What does Jesus’ forgiveness of the adulterous woman tell us about right governance and true justice? Listen to the full episode for the answer and more.

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How To Exorcize Collectivism

We’re far too often told that we must shrink towards collectivism if we’re to find our identities. Humans have a proclivity to find comfort within a tribe and then assert themselves over those with different identity markers. Is collective warfare the right way to find solutions? David Gornoski says otherwise. “We must realize that many of our ideas are borrowed by imitating others,” David says, “and also that we often end up imitating bad role models.” How can we reject the imitation of bad role models and defend the victims of groupthink? Listen to the full episode to find out.

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Justin Murphy, PhD on Jesus, Riot Carnivals, and the Origins of Our Civil Unrest

David Gornoski sits down with Justin Murphy, political scientist and former professor of the University of Southampton; and together the two discuss the reemergence of faith, the meaning of Christ’s love on an anthropological level, the current riots, socio-political turmoil, and Jesus-imitation in a post-Christian culture.

Justin Murphy says, “The rioters are–in their own twisted way–trying to produce a sacred process.” That sacredness, David replies, is the search for scapegoats, whether they be store owners or the president of the United States. David and Justin then dive deep into the concept of ritual sacrifice and draw fascinating comparisons between the current riots and the riotous carnivals celebrated in ancient times.

How can we bring the biblical concept of Jubilee–the clearing of all debts–to alleviate the suffering of the downtrodden without bailing out the big corporations? Can we cultivate a proper ethic of imitating Jesus in today’s secular context? Can we bind society together with something else other than sacrificial violence? Listen to the full podcast to find out.

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Dr. Norman Horn on Contagious Violence

“We’re seeing the overreaction to the pandemic spilling over to other parts of life,” says Norman Horn, founder of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Dr. Horn goes on to explain how institutional coercion spills onto the streets in the form of riots. “Just because we agree that there are structural problems does not mean that we should burn the city down.” Is capitalism to be blamed for the injustices in our system? Dr. Horn partially agrees and argues that we need to resist government collusion with private companies. He warns that usage of violence will backfire with enormous effect. Can one be both Christian and Libertarian? Can one celebrate both liberty and jubilee? Listen to the full episode to find out.

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Building Bridges and Living Within Our Means with Rufus Rochell

“To build a long-term sustainable economy, politicians would have to become anti-Santa Clause.” David Gornoski proposes a removal of institutional coercion–a total rejection of spending trillions on the military-industrial complex and the drug war–if we are to care for our children’s future. Also, Rufus Rochell calls in from home confinement to highlight the plight of non-violent drug offenders like himself who are unjustly imprisoned with long sentences. “Change does not come by talking loud, my brother,” Rufus says, “Change begins first and foremost when you’re dedicated to making changes that will empower others to do better and advance their way of life.” Rufus goes on to explain how we can imitate Christ and “kill the enemy with the kindness of God.” Listen to the full episode as David and Rufus explore how we can effect change amidst the storm of riots and injustices in our society today.

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Dr. Yu on Hadron Anomalies and Fusion Progress, Ryan McMaken Takes on the News

“Whenever you ask people about physics they feel like it’s so remote. I believe physics should be intriguing for everybody,” says Dr. Weiping Yu as he returns to the show to discuss the LHCb physicists’ measurements of B mesons particles and their search for a more complete theory beyond the standard model. Dr. Yu also comments on the latest news surrounding the gigantic ITER fusion project in France. Plus, senior editor of Mises Institute Ryan McMaken calls in to discuss the ongoing riots and protests as well as General Mattis’ comments on President Trump. Listen to the full episode for all of this and more.

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